3) I think it does hurt recruiting elite out of state prospects. They recruit nimble, short tackles, which you don't see in the NFL. Hopefully he has a breakthrough year. Oh, and lets not forget the secret weapon. There are a number of factors that the coaches consider when setting the defense from play to play. It also put the Whip and Rover in better positions to be successful. So, every player has to know exactly where to be, exactly what to do, and exactly where to go before running with reckless abandon into a full speed collision. Foster has been at Virginia Tech for 30 years and has been the coordinator for 12 seasons. A retired San Jose police officer was convicted Friday of committing more than $1 million in insurance fraud and $18 million in money laundering after exploiting workers at a private security . Everything I've read has Antoine starting next to his brother this fall. The same thing happens for Mike and Whip. Once their keys indicate that the running back has the ball, each pursues the ball. I find it interesting how you compare our defense to being as unique as GT's offense. Young guy like Ekanem and Farley, based on film, are perfect fits. The legendary defensive coordinator stepped away after the 2019 season, but his . The alignment is a disguise, as he has no pass coverage responsibility. Shop fresh Hokies gear at TKP sponsor Homefield. %PDF-1.2
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In an 8-man front, the Rover will rotate up closer to the line of scrimmage and align as the fourth linebacker. The primary reason why more teams dont try to run this type of scheme is because of the inability to find the two swing players however, and you need them to play against spread teams. That is a lot for the players to process isnt it? The consistent 3 stripes on white was a good look. The Hokies play a base 4-3-4 defense, meaning that there are four defensive linemen, three linebackers and four defensive backs in the base set. Nekos was pretty average size for a Hokie DE (McCray is the biggest it seems like we have had since Chris Ellis), but neither Brown nor Graves fit the new prototype of NFL type 6'6 265 DE's and 6'4 310 3-4 DE's or 4-3 DT's that we see in the SEC. I think they were 6'2 or so and 270-280 lbs. Really great stuff. When Fuller took over whip, it seemed like that balance flipped, with the Whip finishing on more blitzes and the Mike not filling up the pass-rush stat column as much. It is a scheme that looks complicated, but yet is very simple. If you have any questions, I will be sure to answer to answer them in the comments. 5yltM;6#D"A.+|F'g"##PBG
Wi+5~ljx3!_YJ8a7p;[Bx$60FF8x\f@-. I think we played less aggressive which led to Clemson eventually winning. MAN. While it's currently a knock that VT hasn't developed NFL linemen, it's more of an inability to recruit them onto campus than anything else. He started 79 games over an 8 year career. Based on the film that I have watched, either Bud Foster calls more middle linebacker run blitzes than any coach in the country, or the mike backer has almost zero pass responsibility. TKP, where you get the analysis and the analysis of the analysis by the original analyst, "Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." -Bud Foster. So, I don't think having our DL being smallish gives us a good advantage to counter the GT offense (a la moving our DE in as a DT and then replacing the DE with T. Wilson), since Miami has prototypical NFL DT's and absolutely mauled them at the LOS. It is even more stunning given how horridly Miami's D was against the Hokies. http://www.orangeandwhite.com/news/2012/jan/21/swinney-hired-venables-br OT: "The Mandalorian" S3 discussion thread (feat. Can we get this thread retitled - "A Look Back at a Look Back to . Because the line is flowing play-side, the Whip should be unblocked and should go directly to the ball-carrier. Playing more of the defense it ran under former coordinator Bud Foster, the unit turned in a markedly better performance against the high-powered Hurricanes in Saturday's 25-24 loss. If he comes inside, Backer takes him. Often, a zone play to the right (which on a Madden diagram looks like it would go to the 6 gap) will actually cut back almost over the center. The Whip responsibilities seem to change as much as the skillsets of the players in the position. Gap fit means when the defensive player hits the assigned gap, he must hold that gap maintaining the proper leverage in order to get off a block and make a tackle. From the formation, they know the passing strength of the offense and based on that they will slide their respective alignments accordingly (still within the basic alignments defined by ball position). Stanford presents the most unique formula. He does not have to be a big guy, but he does have to have a very high motor. Whether you've been running the 4-2-5 defense for years or you're looking to implement the scheme for the first time, . The offensive personnel or personnel group is the makeup of offensive skill positions for any given play. I have read it many times in the past. Cover 6 goes well with the pressure fronts they like to show. The strongside End, called a "Stud", aligns over the inside of the TE (7 technique) and the other DE aligns in a 5-technique. (He finished with well over 100 yards.) The reason why they can adapt to spread offenses reasonably well is because of the player they put at the hybrid position. Am I getting overconfident that we'll be able to better compete with Clemson this year based on the following assumptions: from Clemson beat writer Greg Wallace via Andy Bitter: http://hamptonroads.com/2012/06/ask-another-teams-beat-writer-clemson. With a 2-high safety base set, the Hokies can play a lot of different zone coverages (while still playing man coverage when they want), preventing offenses from dictating match-ups with their personnel groups and formations. Smart Football did an excellent write up on the Hokies robber and 4-4G. This is absolutely an attacking defense where every player is expected to #1 maintain leverage/control their gap responsibility and #2 attack attack attack the ball carrier. The wide variety of stunts are designed to make backs read holes that are not there, causing them to run right into the mike or backer who have moved across the formation to meet the back in the hole. So something else broke down that lead to Clemson being able to run the ball like they did in the second half. A student manager signals the personnel group (12 in this example) via the sign board. Presented by, Click here to access all three parts of the Hokie Defense series by Raleigh Hokie. *:JZjz ? Mike: The Mike backer (Jack Tyler) lines up directly over the center, and blitzes against the flow of the play to fly through the 1-3 gap. Learn how to identity the Bear and understand how it accomplishes its goal. Great stuff as always French. Because its a 4-4 defense that has to be able to handle the spread offense at times, it needs some rather special players at some of the hybrid LB spots. So complimenting it with the Bear front gives you the choice of going Even or Odd with a stem (pre-snap shift). More and more NFL coaches are blending the 4-3 and 3-4 concepts and scheme. You have heard the laundry list of coverage terms, but what do they mean? The "nickel" linebackers have almost no pass defense responsibility, and instead are used in a variety of blitz packages designed to outman the offensive line and force the quarterback to make quick throws, where the designed hidden coverages in the secondary await to pick off the pass. Ultimately, we will see Maddy and Derek Hopkins starting, with Marshall coming in for Maddy on most passing downs. The dominant defenses in Tampa Bay of the late 90's early 2000's allowed Warren Sapp and Simeon Rice to get up field as the method for controlling their gaps. A lot can still happen from that base pre-snap state, including shifts, motion, and checks/audibles by the offense. Fosters defense is always going to be well-coached, and being well-coached puts players where they need to be, but you still need some talent to beat better OLs even if the defenders are where they need to be. A student manager then uses the sign board to communicate the personnel group to the players on the field. When they face 21/22/12 personnel, theyll set up in the G front or Bear front most of the time. The "G" front is the base front, but here I have not adjusted to the formation. Size, strength, and explosiveness were huge factors in that variance. I would go so far as to say Miami was the worst defense the Hokies played all year. How many Hokies have become elite corners in the NFL? 2. Bud Foster used the Bear defense to suffocate the Buckeyes' run game in 2014. The wide tackle six and the gap defense were used by Foster specifically because they didn't have the athletes to play SEC style, line up our best athletes against yours, and beat you football. "That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! The movement ideally allows three Hokies to be unblocked, versus depending on the physical ability of the defensive line to beat each of their blocks at the point of attack. The scheme will give about 3,000 families in poverty $1,000 a month for a year, and there are no . As for tight ends, teams that play tight ends usually end up with the rover or free safety covering them. Justin Hamilton is in his first year as Virginia Tech's defensive coordinator after serving as safeties coach last year. The Mike will likely be unblocked, but the running back should flow directly to him, so the Mike essentially has responsibility for the 1 gap. Clemson and Duke are really the only teams I can remember that have attacked Hokie corners and been successful. Ball position refers to the position of the ball relative to the hash marks. I am ready for some football. It really is an outlier as far as defenses, as much as Paul Johnson's wishbone is on offense. The Whip slides over in a defensive back alignment over the inside receiver. Some of the biggies are game situation, down and distance, ball position, and offensive personnel. In the above play, Jayron Hosley backpedals to his deep third at the snap. Hosley was excellent enough to execute the design up there with the very best ball hawk the Hokies have had. The transition from James Anderson to Brenden Hill without skipping a beat showed two things (1) the coaches know how to put different type players in a position to succeed and (2) while better defined to defend against todays offensive systems, the Whip still is a hybrid position. Though the philosophy was. 20102023, Orange and Maroon Media, LLC. Williams and Harris pretty much flamed out. Frenchgreat new addition to TKP! I think they are well coached. Sometimes shifts and motion will force the defense to tip its hand. I still worry about the whip (watching film of the Stanford game will do that to a guy) and Maddy and Marshall have to take the next step. A "Bear" front covers both OGs and the Center, making it an Odd front. To make that work, you still need to get pressure from the DL, and I think this has been one of VTs biggest issues on defense over the last few years. The DB's align based on secondary alignment rules. They tie up the center and both guards, allowing the middle linebacker to go unblocked sideline to sideline. Engleberger wasn't a bust. Offensive schemes do the same. Former Federal Fugitive Pleads Guilty in California to Massive Fraud and Identity Theft Scheme in Connection with Nationwide Foreclosure Scam Defendant Collected More Than $1.2 Million from More Than 800 Distressed Homeowners . I think that with their recruiting getting better, Foster may change. What VT wants to do to you is show the 8 man front, and force you to go into max-protect blocking, and then peel those extra 2 guys back into Cover 4. Where and how they play, and personnel types preferred, are highly scheme dependent. The Mike is over the center. Ok. It is actually a base 4-4 front. Virginia Tech uses both their base look (which features each lineman and linebacker having gap responsibility for the gap in front of them) or a more radical stunting approach based on the talent Foster has available. The "G" front is a 4-man Even front that covers both OGs with DTs, and is heavy on stunting. By keeping the tight ends and running backs in to block, offenses could buy additional time to go to their wide receivers running down the field against single, man-to-man coverage. Because he lines up so close to the LOS, he has to be really good with his backpedal fundamentals to be successful, but in 2-Robber he has the flat zone strong. #Scales4Heisman. The boundary, field, and rover all have pass coverage. Drawing on the scheme's nickel roots gives 4-2-5 teams the ability to run a divorced front concept. I think we have had these super talented CB's the past few years but what happens when somebody gets hurt and we have to go to the bench like when Hosley got hurt last year? View All Discussions French on the Bench , "Does it get any better than Thursday Night in Blacksburg?" Before I wrap up this part of the series, I want to get back to the adjustments made after the 2003 season. Thekeyplay.com is not affiliated with Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University. The entire defensive approach featured a bully mentality and a big play fervor. I am not sure where Antoine fits, but I find it hard to believe he will beat out Maddy with Maddy's excellent spring. At the time, there was a lot of discussion about the changes, both from the coaches directly and from others close to the program. When he isn't rushing for 2000 yards next year, Martin Scales will be the Hokies 3rd down pass rusher and get 10 sacks. If you can stop the run with six, the whip or backside safety doesn't have to commit so quickly. MAN. Hopefully Logan will have improved his accuracy to be able to make them pay for it. Even if they win, guys like Hopkins and Collins were just not the same after the GT game last year. Clear as mud right? Rover adjusts to the better receivers or Field side. If one DL gets blown out of the hole, it creates problems for every other defender. In terms of positions, the Stud, Whip, Mike, Field Corner and Free Safety always align toward the wide side of the field. The defensive linemen get into the neutral zone, engage their blocker, secures their gap, and sheds the blocking using a "violent hand motion" (rip, swim, push-pull, or 45 technique). If healthy, this year's defense is going to be quite different. His upside is higher than Collins, but Collins is a much more instinctual player at this point. An example are the Virginia Tech teams of Frank Beamer and Justin Fuente, with Bud Foster serving as defensive coordinator under both. From this base set, the Hokies can play any number of man and zone coverages while still getting to an 8-man front on any play by rotating the Rover up closer to the line of scrimmage just prior to the snap. Have no idea how that played into Foster's defense, but he has played and started taller more slender DTs. Join the community. The Hokies showed a blitz up front, and Jayron showed a cover 3 look by bailing out and back pedaling before the snap. We wore it again that season in our ACC Championship win against FSU. So obviously if it doesn't work the scheme breaks down because it also means not being able to pressure the offense and the QB into poor decisions. ]~ .O}_JG7mn0 1.Wvn;m,Fv i>TFis
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Backer: The Backer (Tariq Edwards) lines at the same depth as the mike but in the guard tackle gap. As mentioned earlier, that led to man-to-man match-ups of a linebacker or Rover against that third and fourth wide receiver. This site utilizes responsive web design, which renders the site properly on all platforms (PC, tablet, mobile). Did Jim Harbaugh out scheme us, did we execute poorly, or were we outmanned? Prior to 2004, the alignment of the linebackers and safeties was based more on the strong side / weak side of the offensive formation. That's how good of a kid he is." All of those adjustments are made in real time by the players on the field. What is a zone blitz? . In the seasons that he had great talent, they didn't blitz and stunt as much (the 06 and 07 Hokie defensive highlight films feature much more base defense against the run.). What's considered non-radical? Youll see how they get away with that in coverage later. Because of their Field/Boundary alignment philosophy, the same defenders do not always get matched on the same offensive players. From there, Tech held Miami to 10, Kent State to 0, #14 Wake Forest to 6, and Virginia to 0 to finish 10-2. On the other side, teams could get favorable running game match-ups by running to the boundary. This plays out when you examine the Hokies players in the NFL. The 6 comes from the switches called between the LBs and the backfield. Jessie has three boys of her. Behind the defense, the Hokies secondary plays a basic robber coverage on this play. A terrific example (which of course I cannot find a good video of) is the 2010 interception of Stephen Morris by Jayron Hosley against Miami. Neither would a Pat Williams type DT. I have no doubt this works against the Hokies in recruiting, but Foster also has archetypes he recruits to for his players. In the big games where we got burnt it was the opposing QB's abilities that made the difference. Most of the time, there is a safety/LB hybrid that is dropped into the box to create a true 8 man front. This "Field G" is mostly what Virginia Tech is in nowadays. Sadly, the wide tackle six approach saw it's end as the Hokies were decimated by sophisticated passing attacks from the 2002 Gator Bowl through Aaron Rodgers legalized murder of the secondary in the 2004 Insight Bowl. Access Exclusive Content and Financially Support The Key Play. .". Call 1-800-GAMBLER. I heard very little about McCray in the spring. I'm pretty sure, if VT could land Hand or Brown, Foster would develop them into 1st Rd D-linemen, even in a gap fitting scheme. From a fans perspective, it is easy to see that football is very challenging physically its arguably the most physical of any sport in the world. In fact, since he arrived in Blacksburg in 1995, the Hokies have led all FBS programs in sacks (894) and sack yardage (-6,110). The defensive front called "Bear" is part of the 46 defense, but they are separable things. Welcome to Bud Foster's Lunch Pail D. This site is dedicated to blue collar, hard nosed defense like those run by Bud Foster during his years as the Defensive Coordinator for the Virginia Tech Hokies. For #3, I think this defense actually makes the corners look better than they really are. That's probably the reason we lost Korren Kirven. Damn that's a turning point in both Clemson and VTs program recently. The opinions of the author(s) on this site are independent and no way reflect the opinions of the Virginia Tech administrators, coaches, staff, or athletes. I was getting confused reading the comments and didn't see they were from 5 years and 12 months ago. Some teams run a 2 gap scheme (which is much more difficult to get players for.) I have no expectations that Antoine will start this year coming off that injury coupled with his history of not being as hard a worker. Everyone, especially play side, must at least stalemate their blocker in their gap. French on the Bench is a new series of posts that will take a closer look at the theory, fundamentals, and scheme of Tech's offense and defense. In passing situations, the Hokies use more defensive backs than the old days, but Foster's mentality hasn't changed. Virginia Tech Hokies football, basketball, athletics blog and forum featuring: unique columns, breaking news, film studies, in-depth analysis, recruiting, videos and jokes. )jlOkD0 Nzlk}nGr(eancz#pC)vg`gd>fX&qb' h3L88ihTy%B|1ebUX9T ";*KM The one-gap 4-3 is a little more similar to the Hokies in that each defensive front 7 has gap responsibility, but in the NFL almost never does the radical stunting that the Hokies perform (the NFL lines are good enough to adjust and drive the stunting linemen off the ball.). Also BF has talked about wanting to change the "DNA" of our DL referencing Ala. and LSU's D-lines. (Dave Knachel/Virginia Tech athletics) Article It's a season of transition. Billy Hite. That would have been tough duty for a guy like Rouse, who was much better suited for the current responsibilities assigned to the Rover (1) back as a deep safety to the boundary side or (2) up at the line of scrimmage as an outside linebacker playing boundary run containment or picking up a tight end in man coverage. What VT plays most against pro-style teams is Inverted Cover 2 Robber, but the deep cover guys are the Cornerbacks, not the safeties. The mike linebacker has no pass coverage responsibility in most of the Hokie defenses. This allows the players to react instinctively and play with more confidence. Registering for an account is free and easy. Virginia Tech football's defensive coordinator, Bud Foster, has been on the job for 18 years now, but he keeps revealing new layers of brilliance to show why he's the best defensive boss in. Why are we sometimes successful (last year 2nd half) and sometimes not so successful (09 second half)? Does the defensive scheme lend itself to this or did we have weaknesses in key positions? These coverages have the goal of taking away the crossing routes over the middle and the post route that is used to attack C2 defenses, but also keep a guy relatively close to the LOS to help with the run, or running QBs. After all, at Pry's introductory presser he noted he cut his teeth as a graduate assistant in the mid-90s under Foster. It wasn't ideal. How does pressure relate to coverage? It offers some terrific insight into the Hokie mindset at that time. TechSideline.Com
Maddy is going to have to really step it up to be the starter. WHIP might align himself like a FS, but hell come down over the middle into a hook zone instead of dropping for deep half-field coverage. And stopping the run was (and still is) the #1 goal of Bud Fosters defense. Does this really hurt us? Anytime you see the mike backer dropping back, it is change up defense hoping the QB throws to a spot without seeing the mike. Remember getting gashed repeatedly by just about everybody we played? And based on the history of Bud Fosters defenses, its likely that the play is stuffed. So, it's not surprising that the man's personality matches his philosophy when it comes to dual reads in offensive football. In a traditional one gap 4-3 defense, each player in the front seven has the gap in front of them with few exceptions, with examples being a variety of stunts and run blitzes that are run in small proportion to the base calls. Next week, we will examine some of the basic blitz packages that the Hokies use for passing down and distance situations. The defensive calls will be different on 2nd and three versus 3rd and nine. All original material and images are copyrighted by TechSideline.com and may not be reused or reprinted without permission. In the Michigan game, almost every completion came against the safeties. The idea is the front 6 align based on front alignment rules. If the safeties have to make a bunch of tackles (see Stanford, Miami, Boise, Clemson), then the corners are on an island and at some point, even the best corners will get beat in man coverage. Seems to me it would be a waste of time unless they are going to use him at DE. "-John Blutarsky, Small, and generally stout defensive tackles certainly seem to be the Bud Foster model. They are looking at the QB and reading his actions without letting the #1 outside WR get past. The amount of zone and safe coverages they play really is determined by the ability of the line, mike, and backer to stop the run.
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