{This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. All the quotes you have seen from Cathy Tweed came from Tonys conversation with Taylers mother the day after she buried her daughter. Of course you proved your point. However, we assure you that we will add the factual details once they are available. Absolutely avoid the question??? Naturopaths? Public relations is not the answer to the Church of Scientologys problems. It all became a psychological bull shit of plain invalidations and case evaluations. Now that Ive checked, my memory was incorrect. We trust that you will find the information listed on this website to be of value to you. Yet he criticises the ones who do. D) A good nutritional diet that provided all essential nutrients. in a process because allegedly she still had not voiced the correct EP. But, IMHO, the biggest part of the general upset has been created by misapplication and by a fundamentalistic, fanatical approach to policy and Tech. And if the narrative of the program was not, Scientology need to be stopped and destroyed which IS the one theyve been using even if not in those words but instead a plea for reformation for the greater good, we might have gotten somewhere in terms of reformation. Ex Ireland rugby player David Tweed dies aged 61 | Daily Mail Online Davy Tweed, 61, played international rugby five times for Ireland in the 1990s The unionist politician was convicted of. But not all mothers have award winning, network sponsored TV shows magnifying their mistakes. Curtis was free-spirited and enjoyed music, guitars, and hanging out with his closest friends. When most anti-Scientologists refer to The church is doing this or that, and so on, or The church is Fair Gaming this or that one, they fail to recognize that they are ACTUALLY referring to ONE single individual whose orders are being robotically followed. Have you ever been to one of your own childrens funerals? So much for the anti-Scientology narrative regarding Scientologists not using or seeking proper medical care. In my opinion, the best way to handle this is not by trying to demonstrate who is stronger or more badass, which is the current narrative of BOTH, the church and the anti-Scientology movement. On this episode I thought the half which addressed the young mans story in the Sea Org did a good job of showing how toxic the SO culture and mindset is. Of course, that he opened his piece sort of validating their efforts, in a SENTENCE. I was actually picturing Paul Haggis when I typed Alex Gibney. I dont know about you, but for me, that sounds more like one of those conspiracy theories that people LOVE to hold on to, to ease their boredom. Mr. Tweed was born in Greeneville, TN and son of James W. "Buddy" & Nora O. After the incredible inflow of Crazy hatred being generated by the show and coming in as comments on my blog the overwhelming majority of which I have trashed I am actually concerned for Cathy Tweeds safety. What about Scientology kids. Rest in Peace Taylor, I will always remember you as a firecracker and kindhearted soul who wanted to save the world. My judgement even though I wasnt that high on the org board was always seriously taken into account by both the Snr C/S and the ED. Hear your loved one's obituary. The family does not address the story in a believeable way. Carl Smith, Jr. Georgie Ann Glaser. We were trained to be able to raise above our own cases, and to keep our Acts One in (Straightwiring out the reasons why we didnt want to help a certain PC). At my org, this acted as a huge invalidation for quite a few individuals who protested about the looong running of processes disregarding any cognitions except the very specific and arbitrary ones decided by DM out of his own misinterpretation of the Tech. But Im sure that for anyone who has buried their child, the day after is still the same day.. Youve just attended the funeral of your own daughter who committed suicide and a journalist calls you up to talk to you about it. However, cause of death was not disclosed. This is TV were talking about. Apparently it was a policy set by Hubbard that one needed to find out about any health issues and then get it or them taken care of before starting this course. Am I the only one that realizes this woman never actually cries she just fake sniffles. This makes me absolutely sad You are saying that you were taking your daughter to doctors when Scientologist dont believe in doctors she should have went to a therapist and got help when she needed it !! I rest my case! Painting her as a drug addicted person who would not do the work is revolting. Getting rid of David Miscavige? Its often hard to predict who is truly suicidal. Other groups were not the topic. But Im sure that for anyone who has buried their child, the day after is still the same day. New Chandigarh Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today New Chandigarh Record Chart 2023, New Agra Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today New Agra Record Chart 2023, Dhan Ratan Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today Dhan Ratan Record Chart 2023, Madhur Shree Satta King Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today Madhur Shree Satta Record Chart 2023, Delhi State Satta Result Chart 13 January 2023 Today Delhi State Satta Record Chart 2023. Leah and Mike added nothing as in no new information to Tony Ortegas 2 year old story. Feel free to add me to your undesired list. Instead of being referred to a mental health provider, the church attempted to sell another expensive auditing package to her family. I wonder what the anti-Scientology camp Science Officer would have to say about this, , Excuse my manners, Alanzo! A LOT is based on hearsay, which at almost every court of law in the planet would be considered as inadmissible evidence, and for obvious justice reasons. Mike is not sticking to a narrative like the narrative that most people who wanted the Catholic Church to stop child abuse stuck with that only focus on specific abuses, and on very specific and irrefutable evidence while leaving alone the religious aspects; but they are sticking to a narrative sort of : The church is an evil entity who doesnt believe in medicine, whose members never go see a medical doctor, and who are so brainwashed that they feel no loss when they lose their kids through Disconnection or death, and blah, blah. Despite Hubbards blovations about curing mental aberrations, the church knows they do not have the solution to insanity. Also, the Rachel Berenstein commentary on the mothers comments > dismissive hearsay. These could be briefly catalogued as: (and he gives a list). Despite Hubbards blovations about curing mental aberrations, the church knows they do not have the solution to insanity. Of course is the same! What if Tayler was your daughter? Have you ever seen a suicide survivor have a show done about her that blames her for her daughters suicide to millions of people? Yep ,,,, I am beginning to believe the man at the top is deliberately creating situations to implode the group,, He has already positioned himself into the only one category Tech Dict: All criminals are in that bracket ,,, His tone floats around the hostile band, and his ideals are clearly MEST related ,,, The Org Bd has long since been dropped and by-passed in favor of command channels only. He was a member of the Northumberland County Good News Club. You seem to be on the fence. Honestly Statpush, does that sound like an agenda for reformation to you? I have never, not once, seen a parent state they were blameless. The youngest son of Ethel Mummert and Harve Mummert, Tweed lived all of his life in the Macomb area. Not any longer. Butler Funeral Homes & Cremation Tribute Center Saturday, February 25, 2023 Add Photos 2 Memories Carol J. Aarup SPRINGFIELD - Carol J. Aarup, 84, passed away Thursday, February 23, 2023, at her. This was about her daughter and how she ( Kathy ) and Scientology failed Taylor!. Only a fucking Scientologist who believes they've had millions of daughters and families throughout the last 75 trillion years would be just fucking fine with losing "one lost soul" amongst the many you've had. I can sympathize with trying to use ones frame of reference to help their kid. Guest12, the church (as you called it, which irrelevant to the point under discussion), DID made attempts to prove them wrong by sending the executives of A&E letters of protests, and by specific videos done by the family members (who are still in the church) of those individuals being talked about in the show. If they were, their approach in the show would be different, and they would be more careful with the facts and about not making generalizations out of a few instances and stereotyping the Scientologists in general. Way to absolutely avoid the question. That point aside, what you say in the following about the church is really the basic and most important issue at stake: If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license.. I bet the if were the case of your own deceased daughter being shown in national TV while making you guilty, you would then think and speak differently. Or something actually never explained. http://whyweprotest.wikia.com/wiki/Scientology_Suicides#The_dead_cannot_tell_us, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder, (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). Unfortunately, now, we gained no further information from Tyler Tweeds death. Like SO MANY medical doctors, psychologists and psychiatrists BELIEVE today, there is such a thing called Psychosomatic Illnesses, which means illnesses brought about by the different kinds of mental stresses that an individual might be undergoing in his/her life. We are currently puzzled how Tyler Tweeddied. I cant honestly say that I know enough about her to make a fair comment as to her potentials. Whatever this woman says relating to how she tried to help cannot be taken seriously because she followed Hubbard.that makes her statements and response null and void. They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions., TOTALLY in agreement with that! It sounds a lot like the viewpoint of church Scientologists, dont you think? You are way to eager to defend Cathy and this so called church. I highly doubt that. Its the fact that they threw her out that gets me.. Jimmy Carl Richardson. Mary, no offense, but you are either naively buying into what Mike Rinder and Leah Remini are saying in The Aftermath because you dont know much about Scientologys policies as you were never a Scientologist yourself, or you were involved with Scientology but were not very familiar with its policies. The suicide rate among young adults and teens has been growing over the past few decades. There really is nothing there TO reform. Your comment was interesting to me. Now, the anti-Scientology movement will try to get us to believe that most Scientologists doesnt believe in medical doctors, and that they never seek proper medical treatment. I was on staff on technical lines, so I was privy to this kind of information. Is that true, though? I agree with most of your points that you have discussed with Alanzo, except for the above one. Funny, I thought that I had already answered it. Towards the end of my involvement with the church, they got positively mean and nasty. So they should pay taxes as any other professionals from the psychotherapy community do. The level of delusion and victimhood on behalf of the mother is sickening. Come on, how obvious does it have to get? Either you are dumb enough to do it or your not. The second half which concerned Tayler Tweed did make me feel uncomfortable because I kept thinking about how devastating this must be to the mother and other relatives. This is part of the STANDARD policy to handle, insanity (mental illnesses), what LRH called Sources of Trouble, and physical healing. I think they do just fine but I do not expect them to get everything right. It was me the one who usually wrote the Program for such a handling, and very detailed notes of progress were kept. We werent supposed to accept those, but the ED (a GREAT individual indeed! Your search results for obituary: 26 newspaper articles contained information about obituary filtered by: Date from: 1st Apr 1973 - Date to: 30th Apr 1973 Getting back on trackwhat could the church do to reform this aspect of their religion (if were to believe Mike and Leah)? I highly doubt that Cathy Tweed would allow that. This is about a PERSONAL AGENDA of desires of destruction and revenge, while cleverly (and DISGUSTINGLY) manipulating human emotion. Either way, your assertions arent factual. Different from that Introspection Rundown, isnt it? All right then, thanks for the update from Irmas path! Am I really suppose to believe that all the people who have spoken up just woke up one day and decided to try and fuck this church up for no reason? I beg to differ, Statpush, and I am not trying to influence your opinion here. But Im not convinced it should be up to them or any other government or private agency to say how the ill should be treated. 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